Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Alien X (author statements included). PRB was millions of times more powerful than all the poster in the Multiverse combined. Wiki Points. The Source - Primal Monitor, The universal spirit venerated by the New Gods, which resides beyond the Source Wall. Inhuman Mutant beyonder probably pretty sure it was his powers in spidey that let him remake all creation in a fraction of a second. Pre-Retcon Beyonder, as powerful as he is, is STILL bound by dimensionality. 8 years ago. 2nd Retcon - The BEyonder. Yes, the Ivory Kings are retcon back inspirations to Pre Retcon Beyonder, but they are merely inspirations. Originally posted by the DarkoneThe brothers are the most powerfull in there Multiverse. Master/Crazy Hand, Tabuu, Galeem/Dharkon. However, since infinite force and energy is the highest degree of strength that a character can reach in terms of physics there would be no level of power above what is necessary to destroy an infinite universe, i. Forum Posts. Beyonder and its not even close. Tier: Stellar | Endless | Realium | Transcendent: Keys: Base Galactus power absorbed | Infamous Iron-Man | Dual Infinity Gauntlet God Emperor Doom | Pre-Retcon Beyonder absorbed: Extra: Simple words can't describe the glory of Dr Doom, as Galactus, he deserve more than 5 stars 😤 Beyonder and Lucifer gets blinked by Shinra with his narrative manipulation. 81. as omnipotent deities in their respective realities, the OAA Dominates the Hoi Realm. And this character is an entire cardinal infinite tier below. Takes place in an abandoned multiverse. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. 140. Pre retcon beyonder was the closest to TOAA I think any being has come to. The Mage: Molecule Man: Round 2: The Mages are Marauders. CryptoName Owen Reece, Molecule Man Origin Marvel Tier: 1-B Gender: Male Classification: Mutant Age: Unknown Abilites and Powers: Matter Manipulation, Reality Warping, Space-Time Manipulation, Transmutation, Probability Manipulation, Molecular Manipulation Weaknesses: a non stable mind Destructive Capacity: Beyond Multiversal ( was able to. Yakushimi. Well, they are treated as the same character, the Beyonder who showed up post-retcon is, canonically, the same Beyonder who showed up pre-Retcon. High 3-A. @zxzcczzcxz said: Fodder comic verse that lose to barely street tier verse and can't beat Warframe and Destiny vs high. This is pre-retcon Beyonder. The biggest question is Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs HOTU. Per Hank Pym the events of SW2 actually DID happen and were not a "trick" by the abstract powers (which is what the retcon stated. • Pre-Retcon Beyonder • Pre-Retcon Molecule Man-----Multiversal • The Living Tribunal • Gabriel • Beyonder • Molecule Man. He is a cosmic cube which is an Omni-dimensional object that can expand infinitely but that is only a limited part of him because he limits himself. . " it would be pretty cool to get a tag team them lol but very interesting thank you for. 4 years ago. deactivated-621c40d36c53f. Still, Pre-retcon Beyonder stomps here. Manhattan is a low-medium tier matter manipulator. Pre Retcon Beyonder is multiversal while Homelander is low A tier. If this. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. Tier: 1-B | 1-A. I agree with his tier, but one thing I don't understand is how is beyonder above Oblivion when he is just above existene while Oblivion is not part of. He. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was something that no current DC character could handle. • Speed: The Beyonder doesn't have too many solid speed feats, Omnipresence isn't considered as a speed tier but rather a state of existence + he's only omnipresent within his realm. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). Followers. Name:' The Beyonder, The One From Beyond, The One Who is All, Frank. A desperate Molecule Man begins crying about the. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. No rules as pre-retcon Beyonder is silly powerful but try to keep the teams to a sensible size. So as we know, Phoenix Force is an extremely powerful entity in Marvel. The Beyonder himself has been described as infinite-dimensional in a far more reliable and explicit narration, and been referred to as only possessing power. Then there is Inhuman/Mutant beyonder who had nothing to do with The beyonders. So he could just kill them and the concepts they represent. #8 Edited By Sungsam. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is. I'm not taking sides. That being said, Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the HIGHEST tier character Marvel ever had. bigbran. u/nullfather can attest to that. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more insane than his diet coke race counterparts Hickman used (yes they predate Hickman as Kubik in that FF4 comic shows, I know). Beyonder trivially. They’re 50 tonners at most. Respect Pre-Retcon Beyonder. . The brothers are strongest than the living tribunal and the spectre. Didn't Comic God of Stories affected Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 12 days ago. Continental. The power possessed by the Beyonders seems to dwarf all other beings in existence, with the exception of the One-Above-All, as the Beyonders were able to defeat and subsequently destroy every incarnation of every cosmic being that ruled over existence within a matter of months. so i think the only characters. This will be Pre-Retcon beyonder against John egbert with his Retcon powers Speed is equalized (Not that it matters cause both these boys are in the Immesruables) The Father : The So:. Victini could arguably do it if you allow Pokedex entries. @bballaag: No, even pre retcon beyonder cannot defeat The Presence or even TOAA. 1. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is literally millions of times more powerful than the Marvel creation which contains infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses and so on. When ranking the strength of characters the natural thing to go by first is physics. He wins. Oblivion hasn't done anything himself aside from Quasar, and in Quasar, he stalemated. Example: If a character is in the upper range of a tier such as Solar System level, said character will be listed as "Solar System level+", not "High Solar System level". Mismatch, this version of Beyonder is TOAA level. Elaine Belloc would win under both scenarios, 2nd would be pointless. Name: The Beyonder, The One From Beyond, The One Who Is All, "Frank," Kosmos, The Maker, The Broken One. I/O has a low-tier character that is on the level of Pre-Retcon Beyonder and everyone, as in literally EVERYONE, even the. In the comics Homelander’s best objective strength feat is throwing a fighter jet across a room and he doesn’t have anything comparable in the show. Creaturemaster971. -5. #. Pre-Retcon Beyonder. This thread is archived. I really can't be asked to go. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy who got extremely tired just from erasing Death from the multiverse, jobs like fucking crazy during Secret Wars II and lost a serious fight to Rachel Summers (which everyone seems to. Grace ended months ago, but I'm pretty sure Aka's High 1-B key is being downgraded (still high 1-B but much lower on the tier). #36. Beyonders too has proven in little EXP because h e has lost his power on various occasions and despite claiming to be omniscient, but in practice had to learn everything by experience. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Eg: The D's from Tenchi Muyo!, Giygas from Earthbound, Kubik and Post - Retcon Beyonder both from Marvel Comics, Milleniummon from Digimon, and Q from Star Trek, Celestial level: Easily universe. 7 K. . Almost any high tier character can beat him"Motion Carried!" ― Alien X Alien X is a sample of Celestialsapien DNA recorded in the Omnitrix that Ben Tennyson can utilize to take up the characteristics of a Celestialsapien. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Abilites and Powers: Nigh Omnipotence,. 81. 3 + (STR*0. PanzerX. Member. Gender: Inapplicable (As the character stated, "he" was made of energy. MrStealYoSweetroll • 2 yr. Holo-Man • 3 yr. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is a nigh omnipotent high tier multiversal reality warper there is no way in hell Anti-Spiral or even Simon could win against someone on that level of power. True Form Pennywise ain't on Pre-Retcon Beyonder's level, lol. Tiering System: High 1-B | 1-A Name:' The. Pre-retcon Beyonder, ect. 7 K. However, high balled Merc (the transdual Taikyuko-in-disguise on) wtf Xeelee stomps Beyonder. The beyonder is accordingy to comic book guys a 5th tier cosmic. He's was designed by Jim Shooter to be a catch-all explanation for the existence of all the other fiction. . Named but mid-level Celestials. One of the most controversial fights in various sites across the web, finally arrives here. 'Twas always thus, and always thus will be. CryptoA registered-source only wiki that is built upon stolen concepts (They stole from a Russian Wiki called Anime-Fight Club which just like Vsbattles Wiki is biased against comics) and known for stealing loads of information from Outskirts Battle Dome and Google+ (from my friends) and trying to pass it as if they know the information themselves until. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. Pre retcon beyonder was more of a plot device than a character lol. During the time Pre-Retcon Beyonder was made, the writtes at the time stated that the beyonder was the manifestation and. Cosmic. This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Blueface1999 • Additional comment actions. . Doom did. Apparently due to the latest post about Doom people are claiming some Bleach characters like Aizen can beat The God Emperor. Powers and Stats. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. 213. Beyonder 39%. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. They live here, and decided to fuck shit up. And form. He can´t beat Lucifer. 2. Beyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his powers and abilities. Jackalinthebox said: I thought pre-retcon Beyonder was closer in power to Lucifer & Michael, rather than the Presence. Teams that give him a good enough fight to make him respect them he lets live. Plot Manipulation user (Marvel Comics) Defenders: Beyond #1-5 Beyonder Post-Retcon: It was stated and proven that he was capable manipulating his own canonicity and is aware of his own pervious retcons. Edit: Looking at the respect threads PR Beyonder actually seems a lot more impressive, and it seems my point regarding Lucifer being half the Presence was wrong. But This Gaunlet is way out of order, why the heck is Odin and Zeus above Molecule Man. No BFRs and the battle takes place in the forge of creation. Omnipotent, Beyonder organized an event called Secret Wars, in which he kidnapped the most important superheroes and supervillains in the Marvel universe, for a confrontation between them on a distant planet. Beyonder is strong but not that strong. Not an expert on Beyonder, I just have a rough idea of his tier of power. Conditions of the battle: *Composite Time Lords will include variants of the Time Lords from the Expanded Doctor Who Universe (e. Both are in character. Versions-Strongest. (They Became the HOI, basically writer tier, or paper tier). Pre retcon MM scared the cosmics of the 80s even as groups, they had to just let him pass by out of fear, even beg him to fight Beyonder. Dimensional Tiering. I am still wondering, the summary clearly says Racher Summers could beat the Beyonder if she absorbed all life force. PR Beyonder was able to erase LT with a wave of his hand. Anyway Beyonder is infinitely more powerful than most of the shit in marvel including multiversal threats like Galactus and Thanos. IMO Lucifer convinces the Beyonder to kill himself. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises. laj11900 • 2 yr. Pre Retcon Beyonder. First firament might exist before all the 8 creations but beyonder comes from different multiverse which treats the Marvel creation as a droplet of water . So, I looked at The Beyonder's(Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely,. -. TOAA: Got KOed by Thanos with the Regulator, stated he wasn't omnipotent unless the multiverse had "order", smaller multiverse. Older than the. I know someone think that Victor means Cosmic cube not Beyonder pre-retcon ,but I think it's Beyonder pre-retcon. PR Beyonder is a casual multiverse buster. His anti-feats are plot-induced because it's attempting to tell the story of him trying to figure out the Marvel multiverse because it's so tiny and simplistic in scope to the Beyonder realm. Multiversal. 6 + (POW + (SPS*SPL))^2 + COM^1. -Beyonder/s are bloodlusted. The Beyonder was originally an organizer of a massive. Molecule Man utterly in fear admitted that Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) is on levels unimaginable to him and self-stated that he cant Match Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) in power meaning that Beyonder was infinitely more powerful than him even when he was above all the powers of the cosmic hierarchy (Including: The Living Tribunal himself). Pennywise beyond infinite-D has no basis. Tbh fights at this level have unknown victories and are really just up to people's opinions at that point. 7 years ago. The following is an overview of our Tiering System. City. I have little knowledge on LT Unfourantlly other then he's a God Tier in. The difference is that the first Beyonder was presented as having a radically different backstory and widely divergent level of power to how he was presented before. Even an Taiyoku level of One is easily Outerversal level. Beyonder, Solar vs. 4 years ago. Well COIE Anti Monitor, as powerful as he may be, is actually a little out of his league here. Reinhard or Mercurius could beat Pre-Retcon Beyonder. CynicalWeeb's Demonbane is Lucifer level. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. " (Fun fact, guys like EGD and Beyonder exists outside. Beyonder is a million times larger than an Infinite Dimensional Multiverse, the difference between him and an Omniverse is far greater than the one between MM. Pre retcon beyonder was more of a plot device than a character lol. #1 KalKent1297. Just because Beyonder, originally wasnt from marvel multiverse doesnt mean that Beyonder isnt a marvel character, because he is. Forums. I have him at Multiversal. The only known beings who are above them are Lucifer, Michael and The Presence. Disable any adblocker and tracking prevention then try again. Pre Retcon Beyonder gets wrecked hard lol. Tier: High 1-B | At least High 1-B | High 1-A | High 1-A. Who will win in a fight between Beyonder and Multi-Oblivion & Oblivion (Pre-Retcon)?The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is the embodiment of the Beyond-Realm and is the chief of the extra-dimensional race the Beyonders who created the cosmic cubes and Kosmos, but the Maker (one of the. everything else is nothing to him Galactus. We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured. He'd beat composite Superman, let alone this robot. In terms of scaling, the downplay of most of the entire Marvel verse was frustrating. The being known as the Beyonder is, in fact, a young member of an. Pre-retcon Beyonder is his most popular matchup, or at least the one I see most often, but who's his closest?. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. Pre-Retcon Beyonder just wishes Spectre to be gone and that's it. Doom pressed a button which stole all the Beyonder's power. 5: Anyone with The Infinity Gauntlet (When it could be used in Unison)You need to be logged in to post comments. Celestials > Post-Retcon Beyonder > Phoenix Force. 2. 3 years ago. Conceptual Warping Tier C vs Particle Manipulating Tier B. 0. With that said: Beyonder has ultimate authority in a void. no one can tell, if he was less powerful than TOAA or equal, PR Beyonder was stated by Stan lee to be omnipotent, but the meaning of omnipotent is debatable. TF Pennywise should actually be a tier below Beyonder. Goku is low outer at best and byonder is easily outerversal. What Makes marvel only H1B while DC is Layers into Tier 0? Does DC truly scale higher than Marvel, is it the other way around or are they practically equal?. Shigaraki(My Hero Academia) fights an army of street tier DC and Marvel heroes. If someone can actually name a more. A statement from Mephisto referring to that part of power as "so potenti is this. The One-Above-All - vs - Beyonder (Post-Retcon) # 35 K The One-Above-All Thats so * dumb, Post-retcon beyonder is universal+ and scales below eternity, pre-retcon beyonder might have a chance as he is the full beyond realm which infinitely transcends the main marvel multiverse TOAA includedBeyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his powers and abilities. Composite-DC/Vertigo's Infinite Hierarchy is. Source is responsible for high-tier multiversal beings that invoke omnipotent power to make ideas/concepts into being. The Beyonders have nothing to do with Pre Retcon Beyonder. Just because that occurred, does not mean Pre-Retcon Beyonder's "im ominoptent" statement holds any weight. BeyonderGod's Beyonder is Omnipotent. The same exact way Presence is the Supreme Being of the DC Multiverse. Then there the Beyonder Child unit thing that is related to The beyonders. Rune King Thor is still under beings such as The Living Tribunal infinitely. @higherpower: I'd be delighted if you can name more than five people who can "blink" a Pre-Retcon Beyonder level character "out of existence. Superhuman. Phoenix isn't above Pre-Retcon Beyonder, Beyonder was merely overwhelmed by the knowledge that each individual has their own life and began to understand why he should care. -Beyonder/s are bloodlusted. Location-The Multiverse. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy who got extremely tired just from erasing Death from the multiverse, jobs like fucking crazy during Secret Wars II and lost a serious fight to Rachel Summers (which everyone seems to. 0. Belligerents: Composite Time Lords from Doctor Who and the Pre-retcon Beyonder from Marvel Comics. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A(more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B(same as The Beyonder). 1,102. Alovenus is the strongest in fiction since Alovenus>Omnipotent beings. The Hand - Marked the beginning of creation. New Comics. TonyStark6999. Pre Retcon Beyonder'in seviyesi benim gözümde Mandrakk ile aynıdır ki buna göre sadece Vertigodan bile bayağı bir karakter yazabilirim bende. #4. And Anyone that says Dragonball characters can beat someone like the Living Tribunal is delusional. The entire Watcher. Jump Force Goku view all Shonen as fiction how will Pre Retcon Beyonder will win. Minor nitpick. Death only dealt with Dream so casually because of how the concepts they embody interact with each other. Forum Posts. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is honestly far less impressive than Molecule man, at least current molecule man. Gender: Inapplicable. Yujiro teaches the Beyond how to love, so I guess they both win. Theoreticaly speaking yes Pre Retcon Beyonder is above TOAA simply because TOAA is the most powerful being in the marvel universe, and PRB is 1 million times more powerful than the collective. All of Dr. 2 years ago. even the abstracts in marvel have an odd sort of "cosmically punching each other" way of expressing their power, where lucifer sort. Strength. Here, let me pull a Beyonder feat out of my ass: With mere thoughts, the Beyonder subjects the entirety of Earth and all of its' inhabitants (down to the very microbes) to his rule, causing the most powerful leaders to bow to him instantly. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the neverending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. @rabumalal: Dream would probably solo LT hes near pre-retcon beyonder level at best read into his feats. Beyonders too has proven in little EXP because h e has lost his power on various occasions and despite claiming to be omniscient, but in practice had to learn everything by experience. London, UK. I think it was Uncanny X-men 203#. 3. the Source blinks Pre-Retcon Beyonder. The 2nd Existential Seed said: Beyonder is either one of two things: Millions times stronger then Eternity, or millions times more powerful than LT + ( Even though I believe the first ) . They may have gotten stronger and better feats post ret con but I. Beyonder on the other hand, pre retcon at least, is a million times more powerful than the entire of Marvel combined. I can break this down into more detail. The first pre-retcon Beyonder dies. Definitely Beyonder. #15 Azronger. In other words the only feat the One Above All has that is confirmed is creating a reality of infinite. Street----- Post-retcon isn’t anywhere near as powerful as Classic (Pre), but he’s still pretty powerful. Gen. Post retcon would be a closer fight. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are more impressive. "For the. His Abilites consist of Powers and. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. Random encounter. Death from what I remember had no power of Lucifer, only Destiny did - so I think it's safe to assume she scales below him. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had. deactivated-5b3daad020468. the other is a High Tier Reality Warper with disgusting hax also. 1. And then we have the fact that Living Tribunal is three times stronger than Multi-Eternity. The only other non-Omnipotent characters in Marvel who might even rival a bloodlusted pre-Retcon Beyonder for one are. Holy moley. The realm is known as the Engine Room, The Wild Spaces Beyond Reality, Heaven, The Mystery, The. Only the Great Evil Beast is equal to The Presence. Prepare for. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. 5 )^2 + (SPE*0. Not Pre-Retcon Beyonder’s either. 14 years ago. Beyonder powered spiderman remade creation in like a nanosecond -. Rules: All tier zero characters from marvel are removed. The original Beyonder was created for the Secret Wars (1985) miniseries. MayGodSmiteThee • 2 yr. And the Ivory Kings are nowhere near Pre Retcon Beyonder's power level. CryptoCurrent MM isn't that strong in comparison to a high-tier reality warper. Forum Posts. (still high 1-B but much lower on the tier). While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). And if we are talking about Cosmic hierarchy then Perpetua is higher tier then Mandrakk. Sep 20, 2018. he has base stats of high island ap and dura with near sol speed and ftl combat speed. g. When super-amped Doom battled the Beyonder he got stomped hard. @jashro44. 26,333. 5)^2 + DUR^1. Even lower tier characters in Mythos would. That’s how many drops of water there are in the ocean and marvel was only 1 drop compared to the beyonders power. So BeyonderGod Beyonder > Cynical DemonbaneSearch titles only By: Search Advanced search…Beyonder by feats however after thinking about it i think EGD should win. The first firmanent would be the only being who could challege beyonder in a fair fight . Beyonder is marvel. #5. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the literal principle and the executioner at the same time yes their was scans of Beyonder TANKing universe busting and faster than light attacks he even was able to. Beyonder is canonically a "child unit" of the BeyonderS that were the antagonists of the 2015 series- and those things wiped out the entire marvel abstract tier including LT without breaking a sweat. Thor Vs Justice League : Vs AVENGERS : 12 Cosmic Beings in Marvel : 2, 2016. Pre Retcon Beyonder is multiversal while Homelander is low A tier. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. 8 ) ^ TIER Super Power Score and Level. pre retcon beyonder is supposed to be above the living tribunal ( LT couldn't defeat him so he asked for MM's help) 11 years ago. If we ignore Thought Robot's plot manipulating and implied power and go by feats, then I think Beyonder stops at round 9. But Pre-retcon Beyonder is just a cut above the rest in terms of these characters. 0. Beyonder even realized he was the Pre-Retcon one too lol. and nothing comes up. "But only in their dreams can men be truly free. Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Respect Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Scarlet King (SCP) Respect The Scarlet King (SCP Foundation) Pre retcon beyonder was stronger than all of marvel multiverse combined with exception of TOAA. Scarlet King (SCP) Respect The Scarlet King (SCP Foundation)beyonder (pre-retcon) eternity galactus (marvel comics) marvel comics molecule man oblivion thanos (marvel comics) the beyonders the first firmament the living tribunal Replies: 12; Forum: Questions and AnswersPre Retcon Beyonder Stomps, the only powers that could hope to challenge him are The One Above, the Ultimate Source, The Presence, The Living Tribunal. @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. Posts. Bonus round : pre retcon beyonder vs Rimuru. I feel like Pre-Retcon Beyonder can do practically anything unless someone "more omnipotent" negates his power in some way. In one of those layers of nonexistence, the one who would soon be known (in one incarnation) as SCP-343 comes into being. Literally any one of the hundred omnipotent beings in Marvel could. MM is superior to LT due to defeating the Beyonders, who one-shotted LT in a. please everyone change your vote there is no way Beyonder (pre retcon) looses here the "FRA" movement here is based off a. ( INT^1. Lucifer and Michael together are omnipotent. in classic era: Jim. R2: God stomps. Skyfather. While still a child, the older Beyonders began their grand experiment where they transformed Owen Reece into the Molecule Man. And Pre-Retcon Beyonder was being overwhelmed by The Phoenix Force. Created by. Originally Beyonder was a mysterious cosmic entity from outside the multiverse who was more powerful than Galactus, The Celestials, and the entire Cosmic Compass. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is probably here as well. By their logic, Twilight Sparkle solos about 90% of Marvel and DC. 124. Not Pre-Retcon Beyonder’s either. Phoenix attacks Beyonder with all her power, Beyonder don't even flinch. Btw- Is anyone going to give an actual reason why Beyonder wins, or is this battle gonna be judged on. Lucifer could just tricked Beyonder like Molecule Man did to Beyonder. Beyonder is a cosmic Marvel Comics comic entity created by Jim Shooter, Mike Zeck and John Beatty. You know that. Conceptual Beings In Marvel are A Heavy Case Even Complex to Pre Retcon Beyonder and Comprehension in General More Real Than they Are so they create Forms and Allow others to Create forms of them to Interact or. Bill also got more experience than Beyonder since Bill is over 1 trillion-year-old. A High Nigh-Omnipotent being; with no limits. xyrzrockrain. If i had to lowkey choose one blindly, i'd go with PRB. Pre-Retcon Beyonder wrecks. Even if Thanos had 100 years prep and had the IG, PR Beyonder erases him from existence with his hand. Bait? 1 year ago. The Tree of Knowledge alone contains infinite multiverses and aleph infinities and The Scarlet King could effortlessly destroy it. Since u said their "own" verse. It’s not. 664*10^25. Thus, Bill, in theory, could do something that the Beyonder never. Featherine is way above than Beyonder. Carey and JM De Matteis brought the guns, material and ammunition NEEDED to make DC the second-first tier most powerful fiction. The Beyonder is a fictional character appearing in comicbooks published by Marvel Comics. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 3 years ago. Gender: Inapplicable (As the character stated, "he" was made of energy and could assume any gender that "he" wanted) Age: Unknown. Pre Retcon Beyonder is the Supreme Being of his Multiverse.